On Togetherness: Grace Schwindt and Katleen Van Langendonck

Recall: Evening of Performances (2008–2019) is a year-long programme of interviews, podcasts and contributions from some of the artists who participated in the twelve editions of the celebrated Evening of Performances. Highlighting the evenings’ extraordinary legacies, we will be exploring what the next wave of contemporary performance can become with the artists who have shaped it so far.

In this podcast series, we ask an artist who performed in one of the Evening of Performances to choose someone to be in conversation about collaboration, their respective practices and the future of performance.

Grace Schwindt is a German artist working with film, live performance, sculpture, and drawing. As part of Evening of Performances 2018, Grace presented The Boxer. This performance proposed that the intimate moment of sharing physical and mental wounds could be a way to create open social relations.

Belgian curator and academic Katleen Van Langendonck joins Grace Schwindt in conversation about Grace's practice and the crossovers between Katleen's current research into performance and how it translates across visual arts and theatre.

The pair discuss the transmission of trauma and the translation of performance within different contexts with reference to Schwindt’s The Boxer and broader practice. They unpick the ways museums and theatres work with objects and people to understand how each can achieve better working models when it comes to cross-disciplinary performance work.